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 Post subject: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:13 pm 
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Ina quest to get a but letter stiffness out of the head, Im going to rebuild the whole thing shortly. Is there a spec for these, or am I just going to need to pour through robotics catalogs and mcmaster and see what can be found?

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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:12 pm 
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Unscrew one of the wheels and measure ID and OD of the bearings. I don't have size info on them.

If I were to completely rebuild the laser, I'd go with THK slides in place of the wheel nonsense. I'm currently considering building myself a 3D printer, designing it all myself as none of the ones on the market meet all my requirements. I'd go with THK for that definitely.

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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
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I'll check that out. You see these?

http://www.boxzy.com/

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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
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This what you are talking about?

https://tech.thk.com/en/products/thkdlink.php?id=330

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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:17 am 
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If I had to guess those bearings will be a standard size. Check McMaster and SDP/SI, they should have most of what you need. Just check ID, OD, and thickness and you'll be set- any other options will be irrelevant to this application (except maybe sealed vs unsealed due to smoke condensing inside, so I'd go sealed if you had the option).

That said, I'd love to replace the X and Y axes with THK slides (or Misumi equivalent, etc.) like TLH said. I saw someone do it to a 5th gen before but I can't remember where I saw it or who did it :( I think they used Misumi rails to do it though.

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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:31 am 
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Just pulling dimensions adnd specs off the top of my head, these should work: http://us.misumi-ec.com/vona2/detail/110302063810/

If im close, its a dust resistant slide and runs about $160 for what we would need. Not a horrible cost to upgrade just the X axis. Doing both might get expensive.

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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
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Direct from Misumi they're pretty costly. Might check the Chinese suppliers/EBay/Amazon for similarly spec'd units.

THK is definitely the way to go for something like this. It is fully constrained in every axis except along the slide. None of this faffing about with wheels, wobbly stuff, off center cams and other such nonsense. It is what is used on the Pro LF line of lasers.

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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
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In theory a replacement of the gantry would be just unscrewing the old one, screwing in the new one, attaching the head, and making sure the belt is aligned and tensioned (give or take some effort and leveling, etc). Am I correct in this? I cannot express how much I love the idea of not having to deal with wheel adjustments. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
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If there was a kit out there for it all, yes. There would have to be a bit of machining involved for attaching everything. Im interested in prototyping out a kit for this, if anyone else was interested in picking one up.

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 Post subject: Re: Gen 5 bearings and rollers
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I'd love to make a kit like this as well. I need me some super smooth edges :) I've been on the lookout for a cheap enough linear slide that I could mod; I can 3d print the rest of it. Cheapest I typically see on Ebay (for the full 24"-25" that we'd need) seems to run around $70, which is a little high for "just get one and maybe play with it one day".

It'd be cool if we could find a solid standard type that we could all agree on and could source. I know lots of us have 3D printers, so sharing/iterating on designs would be an easy process. Poking around Misumi it looks like they have some for around $115, down to $105 if 10 of us do a group buy. I'd much rather find some used ones.

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